Curse

.:Gaga:. · Jan 25, 2009, 11:07 AM // 11:07

Hi all,im vanquishing faction (27/33),but i have problem to vanquish these places:
-Raisu Palace
-Uknown Waters
-Nahpui Qurter
-Minister Cho's Estate (Explorable)

Who can write me any suggestion to vanquish those zones?
Thank you

elypta · Jan 25, 2009, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Well I am almost done with my VQ title in cantha..only need maisang hills and then I am done.
What I done was take a discord team and kill stuff. this worked perfectly for raisu palace..i got a friend with discord set up to and it was very easy.

Unkown waters[I think you mean Unwaking waters], i dont know what the problem in this area is. Did it with no problem but you might wanna watch the partols.. this saves a lot of time and some wipes cos you overaggro fast.

with Naipui Quater watch the warriors. i know ussaly they are your least priority but they got tripple chop and some other high dmg skills. they can easily kill your whole minion army and take half your team with it in a few seconds.

Ministers Cho's estate can be hard if you dont have a good set up but i think you should do it with no problem with a defensive sabway/discord heroes. If doing it with a friend both take a hero. happeded a lot of times he run off and died cos the lack of my heroes being around.

hope this helps

shmek · Jan 25, 2009, 11:27 AM // 11:27

Login and use search for any of those areas and there will be builds under those searches. I compared Napui Quarter for this when I did it about 6 months ago.

.:Gaga:. · Jan 25, 2009, 11:46 AM // 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by elypta

Well I am almost done with my VQ title in cantha..only need maisang hills and then I am done.
What I done was take a discord team and kill stuff. this worked perfectly for raisu palace..i got a friend with discord set up to and it was very easy.

Unkown waters[I think you mean Unwaking waters], i dont know what the problem in this area is. Did it with no problem but you might wanna watch the partols.. this saves a lot of time and some wipes cos you overaggro fast.

with Naipui Quater watch the warriors. i know ussaly they are your least priority but they got tripple chop and some other high dmg skills. they can easily kill your whole minion army and take half your team with it in a few seconds.

Ministers Cho's estate can be hard if you dont have a good set up but i think you should do it with no problem with a defensive sabway/discord heroes. If doing it with a friend both take a hero. happeded a lot of times he run off and died cos the lack of my heroes being around.

hope this helps

Thank you so much

legacyofkain85 · Jan 25, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

u+a friend+6 discord heroes,go go ownage,also in raisu palace don't forget to get the celestial skill from kunnavang it helps with the boss encounters,unwakeing waters isn't that hard tbh need to watch out how u pull some mobs so u dont overaggro especially when fighting Kunvie Firewing(the ele boss),nahpui is just like any other place that has am fah,jade brotherhood and aflicted.

.:Gaga:. · Jan 25, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18

ok,but i dont have gwen,so i cant run 3 necro heroes <.<

Pip Squeak · Jan 25, 2009, 04:58 PM // 16:58

Then do a protection monk instead imo
Nahpui: definitely watch those triple chop jade warriors. Prot spirit and some type of block (aegis or guardian) will be useful for countering that.
Unwaking: prot spirit + spirit bond + (maybe) life sheath for those dragon air eles. If you are warrior a tank build that gives you +hp may help too.
Minister Cho's: party-wide block like aegis and shielding hands.
Raisu Palace: I can see you having trouble with this. A hero with secondary or primary mesmer with power block and enchant removal may be useful.

.:Gaga:. · Jan 25, 2009, 08:13 PM // 20:13

ok nahpui vanquished!

N8DOGG · Jan 25, 2009, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Con sets always help

Tir N Aill

Unknown Duli · Jan 26, 2009, 01:01 AM // 01:01

got a friend?

enter a vanq area with 6 heroes (of your choice) and your buddy, then let your buddy leave and you get to keep all the heroes (just dont zone or you will lose the other 3)

you + 6 heroes > you + 3 heroes and those hench

Cebe · Jan 26, 2009, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by Lord Diviner

you + 6 heroes > you + 3 heroes and those hench

It depends on the henchmen, and where you are. There is no denying that some henchmen are terrible. I wont take Reyna in Prophecies because her build adds nothing to the team, for example.

If you look at the builds of the henchmen it can help you drastically. Jamei and Sister Tai, for example, both have 3 10-energy spammable skills, not to mention they only heal. I usually find Professor Gai to be a far more useful support hero. He has heals, but he also has protection including Weapon of Warding and Shelter, as well as energy management ([[Attuned was Songkai]). It might not be perfect, but it's a damn site better than those 2 hench monks, and at the end of the day Hex Removal and Condition Removal can be stacked onto a Hero (Eg. [[Foul Feast] on a Necro, [[Expel Hexes] on a Mesmer or Ritualist, [[Hex Eater Signet] on another character).

If you look at the Elementalist henchmen, Cynn is "ok", though she has Mind Burn which is an exhausting and spammable skill, and Headmaster Vhang really should know better about how to create builds given he's a freaking Headmaster. Kai Ying however, has a nice mix of Defense and Offense and is, in my eyes, way more useful than the other two.

Another example: Brutus and Sheena, our two lovable Rot Wallows. Brutus has a disgusting concoction of Soul Reaping, Death Magic and Blood Magic, whereas Sheena is more Death Magic focussed, unlike Brutus has a decent investment in Soul Reaping, not to mention her Elite could be worse, and is probably a decent choice as an anti-Monk henchman in Hard Mode.

Unless you have someone to steal the heroes from, you have to work with Henchmen. An intelligent use of henchmen is key. Henchmen builds are fixed, so you need to try to select a useful number of henchmen, and try to build your hero's builds around them a little, to try to enhance the team's cohesion.

bungusmaximus · Jan 27, 2009, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by .:Gaga:.

ok,but i dont have gwen,so i cant run 3 necro heroes <.<

So put a discord build on Norgu? with drain enchant and power drain next to it he can't go wrong with energy,

SNIEVES · Jan 27, 2009, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Hi

All the areas you noted are fairly easy, if there is one that might be a little harder than the other it would be raisu palace, just bring 2 mesmer heros there, or i mesmer hero and i mesmer hench, plus your mm, and and ss, and you will own them, for general cho estate, sabway(triple necro) should work fine there, napui quaters and unwaking waters, mm, mesmer, ss, henchie monks , and some dmg, really nothing teriible about them, all i can say is if you having trouble with these areas, waite until you have to do tyria, and do eastern frontier, or majesty rest with rotscale and his pals, then you will be in trouble, simply bu adding a mesmer to your party, could make things alot easier, good luck.

bungusmaximus · Jan 28, 2009, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Eve the blood hench is also pretty useful, especially if you run with Mo/X instead of N/Rt. Who doesn't like blood ritual?

Cebe · Jan 29, 2009, 09:27 AM // 09:27

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Originally Posted by SNIEVES

all i can say is if you having trouble with these areas, waite until you have to do tyria, and do eastern frontier, or majesty rest with rotscale and his pals, then you will be in trouble,

[Shelter] + Spreading Out > Rotscale.

TalanRoarer · Jan 30, 2009, 10:50 PM // 22:50

If your still having problems with Unwaking waters, take 2 MMs.
Worked a treat for me h/h. (: